A real pump

Here's what I will be formulating next week. I'll put it up on the message board for anyone wanting to try it.

Anyone with feedback on the formula or suggestion let me know and post here.

GPLC
date powder
rilose
carbogen
PeptoPro
possibly
Creapure.
electrolytes

I really want to see if I can achieve an incredible pump.

Right now I can get myself a good pump already when I workout. If you read my NO article, you know that the body automatically sends blood to the muscle (app. 80% more) when working out. But the pumps I get are natural pumps. But I want to get a really, really good pump, meaning the muscle feels almost painful, that is what I am shooting for.

Right now my pumps are more visual than anything. my veins are visibly bigger but the muscle does not "ache". Its hard to describe.

but with this new formula that is what I am aiming for. I figure I would take it before workout

ALEX,

have you tried your supp. VIGOR and how did it work for you for your pumps.

Vigor was formulated by Nelson Montana and that supplement is part of his line of unleashed, post-cycle and DX7. This "pump" theory is based on increasing red blood cells with a few ingredients. Cassia Grandis mainly and iron.

I tried it a while ago. I thought it had some effects. But this supplement is completly different than GPLC and carbs.

And about the arginine in the Vigor. You know my thoughts on arginine. It is contained in this supplement.

I would really like to try this pump formula, if you could let me know when you get it together I'll throw down my card and buy some

I would definitely add the creapure to the formula...is it possible to add some HRS or no because of the flavoring? I personally would add the hrs instead of the date powder if available.

Something like 30% Rilose, 30%HRS, 30%Pepto, 5% Creatine, 5% GPLC...

100gm serving thirty minutes pre workout and I think the results would be noticeable from my experience with the all the compounds except GPLC

Correction, as an after thought maybe bump the rilose up to 40 and the the pepto down to 20...

I did something radical, I stopped taking my meds for high blood pressure and started taking GPLC and only 2000 mg a day. My blood pressure is high but not out of control so this supplement is doing something for me already after only 1 week.
This past week I have been taking 2000 mg with my version of torque for a pre workout drink and it has been working for better pumps, not mind blowing pumps but none the less a better pump then normal.
I'm waiting for my Carnitine L-Tartrate to get here and I'm adding it to my post workout formula, this I think is another winner.
So far I'm impressed with GPLC.

The formula I'm going with is
70% rilose
25% trifx or 520 hydro
5% super plasma
carbogen
2000 mg GPLC up to 5000 mg once I get more

I like your formula, I would add the CM for sure in your formula not sure about the electrolytes.

Alex,

In theory would it be better to just have the date powder as the sole carb source and delete the rilose? I have not tried the date powder yet so I cannot comment on how it works but the date powder would be a better choice for the carb source.

I tried the date powder and for a hi-gi carb I liked it.

The only thing I would say is that it seems as though the manufacturer dried the dates and ran them through a mill...it is not a fine powdered carb like the other powders out there.

If you like dates you will really like it though as it is naturally sweet and tastes really good.

creapure, BCAA's, and making sure im more than hydrated gives me ridiculous pumps.