Heliogen, IPI input

**njnjr23** · 06-03-2009, 11:07 PM

It's time for me to grab some more night-time protein and was considering a few options.

Heliogen Casein - I know it is new, but was curious if anyone has tried this out and has any feedback. It's pretty economical...only about 50 cents more per pound than my custom formula

IPI - a little spendy on my current budget, but I hear so many good things about it that I am very tempted.

or just stick with my blend of:

Victoria Milk
Micellar
Aussie

I've convinced a friend that he needs to be taking some slow-digesting protein at night, so I plan on ordering 4-5 pounds to split with him. He seems to be a little more sensitive to taste than me. Any feedback on these options is welcome and appreciated.

**Cowin8579** · 06-03-2009, 11:40 PM

Just curious, why mix those three? I figure you would choose either Aussie or MMC and add a small amount of oat or omega muscle...

I don't know what kind of casein, but I think Alex said it isn't calcium caseinate. Might be just the thing for a smoother drink.

However, I find MMC at least in custom blends works and mixes well. I am assuming that long term, Alex will create all proteins this way, leading to a new era of mixability (and taste?) for all types of proteins.

**dsotm** · 06-04-2009, 12:32 PM

I have heliogen that should come in today, I'll let you know what I think when I get to try it.

**JoelS** · 06-04-2009, 01:04 PM

Alex,
When will the Heliogen Casein be available in the lab?

**dsotm** · 06-04-2009, 10:55 PM

Ok, heliogen mixes in about 30 seconds with a spoon and definitely has better taste and mouthfeel than MMC.

**Jay620** · 06-04-2009, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by dsotm

Ok, heliogen mixes in about 30 seconds with a spoon and definitely has better taste and mouthfeel than MMC.

that sounds good. does it taste "almost like milk" like the advertisement on the page says?
also, did you try it plain, unflavored, not mixed with anything?

**dsotm** · 06-05-2009, 05:49 AM

I tried it flavored with vanilla and some saccharine (added myself to make sure I got the vanilla flavor). "Just like milk" may be a bit ambitious due to the mouth feel, but it's definitely a lot milkier than any other casein I've tried.

**Jay620** · 06-05-2009, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by dsotm

I tried it flavored with vanilla and some saccharine (added myself to make sure I got the vanilla flavor). "Just like milk" may be a bit ambitious due to the mouth feel, but it's definitely a lot milkier than any other casein I've tried.

Ok, cool. I think I may give the heliogen a try on my next order, probably in a month or so. I think Alex also has some whey-based product he will be introducing soon too, so hopefully that will be out in time for the next order as well.

p.s., you should cut saccharine out of your diet, it is really not good for you!!!

**njnjr23** · 06-05-2009, 06:01 PM

I think I am going to give the Heliogen a whirl...another reviewer that way.

Cowin, to answer your question, I blend those 3 slow digesting proteins mainly for variety. I like blends if for no other reason than the combining the slightly different profile of each. I also enjoy that blend as opposed to any of those 3 individually.