Is there a pdf or xl somehwere that

list all the current proteins listed in rows with sup facts across?
That way it would be easy to see which ones have most sodium, most protein per cal, etc.
Download or by email?

There's no reason to have something like that for all the proteins. Some proteins you take for factors aside from pure grams of protein/cal, protein/sodium, protein/$. Like if you're lactose intolerant, that narrows the list. If you want something that absorbs quickly, or conversely, something that digests slowly, then you narrow the list further. Once you know what you want in a protein, there's only a few products left to compare.

Let's imagine your at a gym where no one knows of protein factory. You mention it to a few and next day they ask you questions. They are confused by everything here. Gym stocks only EAS. protein powders.

One person thought their only choice was $100. for the protein they wanted. I told it was probably a listing for 10 lbs.

Overall it makes no differece to me. I just thought, they might have a simple catalog to download.

That isn't something you need. Crap companies use stuff like that to try and show you that their protein concentrate has 1% more protein, or 1% less lactose then the other brand. Assuming these Chinese labels are accurate to our standards, they can manipulate this by adding small amount of isolate.

Only some proteins have lactose. Isolate can bring you 27 grams of protein per 30 grams, concentrate varies on type between 20-23/25 grams per 30 grams.

Amino acids, again.. one just doesn't have more than another, all types of amino acids vary. I suggest you read about specific proteins you are interested in, and then learn about them.

I have been using protein for over 7 years.

I thought my previous response- explained why I made the request.

BTW CRAP and GOOD companies utilized many sales aids to increase sales. Catalogs are just not that uncommon to request. I was NOT suggesting "a compare my product to theirs flyer"

Another for instance is look under proteins from main page- Would you find the lean or light? NO
Just another fish around on computer for hours to find all they have to offer. I mentioned purple muscle (that I just ordered) to teacher at gym and they asked "where was that? I didn't see it"

Oh I see what you are saying. Sorry about that. It is nearly impossible to educate people about this stuff, unless you do it for them? I used to attempt to explain it to people, but it seems to be complicated enough so that you have to be interested in it to want to learn about it.

What I did because of this situation, is just make the formulas for people. What you could at this exact moment, is recommend a single type of protein, and print out the individual information about that single type. There is so much stuff...

You would have to print out pages to do this, but it is desirable to do. Alex sometimes puts out a promo or book on something like peptopro which is interesting. When he first started he focused on CFM whey isolate. I think it might of been a mistake for me to first talk up MRP's.. they are a whole different bird along with the custom formula creator.

You could point people towards the easy formula creator, but that doesn't educate. Either they will have to scroll down the sub forums, or you will have to print them info? Otherwise, something completely new will have to be created; which may not be a bad idea.

The thing that has me puzzled is that if you told someone specifically by name and they still couldn't find it, what use will a catalog be? I think showing that to people will just confuse them even more. I'd start people off on an ordinary concentrate or isolate, and then move them into the specialty proteins when you're provided with dietary needs. Until then, printing the 3 pages of proteins should be more than enough. You may also want to start those people off on the new sampler pack that Alex put together for us.

Sorry we dont have a comparison chart. But I agree with lefteye and cowin that a comparison chart would mislead the customer. Because the Ultra 97 might have 30 grams of protein and the CFM might have only 26. So one who doesnt know a thing about protein will think the Ultra 97 is better. But not necessarily because the CFM is higher in protein subfractions which the supplement facts panel never shows you.

I agree also cowin in that ALL the protein powders on the retail shelf are all the SAME. Yes its pretty shocking for me to say that, but its true. ALL THE PROTEIN POWDERS on the retail shelf are the same. They are all just whey protein concentrate with sprinkled in bullshit. The only way they can deffereciate themselves is to say "Our protein tastes like a freakin MILK SHAKE" the only other way is to make a comparison of "our proteni has 29 grams of protein and the other company only have 27". (whoooopie!!)

Here's the bottom line Lart, you stumbled on what I think is the most advanced supplement company on the planet. We dont appeal to the beginner. We appeal to the more advanced customer (and this doesnt mean a guy thats been working out for 10 years and been using protein for that long) It means a guy or gal that educated himself about protein and wants to learn about.. I guarantee the members of this message board are highly intelligent and know the ins and outs of building muscle and losing fat.

We always try our best to help out the newbie customer, but its hard without taking a picture of some juice up bodybuilder, put him next to the product and slap it up on the home page. We just have too many products.

So any questions just post them on the forum and I'll personally try to answer them quickly for you. But be patient with me and I am very busy and hopefully other forum members can help you out. As I said above, they are all very smart in protein supplementation. I dont think I read one thing I disagreed with from a forum member. (with the exception of recently someone said that super plamsa is not 90% protein and is not 50% IGG, im pretty sure that was a disgruntled customer)

Hi Cowin
" It is nearly impossible to educate people about this stuff, unless you do it for them?"" I used to attempt to explain it to people, but"

I am nice- that I would like to share my find with other's at the gym. Great quality AND Price. But, I am NOT that nice to even attempt to explain it.
(I'm assuming that I will be thrilled with PF's products).

What I did because of this situation, is just make the formulas for people.
Again, I am not that nice LOL.

You would have to print out pages to do this, but it is desirable to do.
OH! I am that nice- You know.. Avon Lady's share their booklets at the gym. I browsed at one -even though I don't use Avon. I think, I was waiting for my work out partner or in-between sets. If protein factory had something there, I would have read that instead. I'm a girl -what do I know?

which may not be a bad idea
That's all I am saying.
BTW-Acrobat Pro 9 can do an entire site to pdf..seems easy enough to edit and make a pdf.

Cowin " There is so much stuff." Alex " We just have too many products"
Goodness- 2 who know a TON about protein. Imagine the newbie perspective when visiting.

I hope I didn't come across as rude. I am working and going to school full time at the moment.. and am probably losing my touch.

I'm a huge fan of this website and products. I can make my body weight go from 199-225 without much issue. How strange is that? Just from product choice customization over time. Those are results. I hope you stick around.