Formula Upgrades/Suggestions

Greetings all,

Super new to PF, but I have done a bit of research on the forums and it seems a lot of your customize your mixes. It is a bit overwhelming for a newb with so many options, so I am hoping some of you knowledgeable folks can steer me in the right direction.

Below are listed the 3 situations I am trying to cover as well as PF's recommended products for each.

My main question, what changes in ingredients or upgrades can be made to the following formulas to make them even better?

Cost is not really an issue as I don't mind paying more for better quality, but I don't want to throw money at something just cause it is expensive.

Like I said, I am super newb, so if any of these ideas are ill conceived, let me know.

Any recommendations and info are greatly appreciated

I am male, 30, 5'10", solid 200lbs, no abs, but not flabby either. Diet is generally lower carb, but not overly restricted.

Goals: priority on strength/muscle gain over weight loss. 5x5 strength type wkouts. Have a bum knee awaiting surgery in two weeks, so no real HIIT currently.



1. Breakfast: I like the look of the PF Breakfast shake overall, just looking for ideas to add some quality low GI carbs in for hunger/energy. Also, I think all of the green, orange, red, purple muscle supplements look really interesting as well as the EFA Powder or OmegaMuscle to round out the shake nutritionally. Taste is somewhat important. Maybe add in some Green Muscle?

20% Victoria
10% Super Plasma
20% IPI
20% Vaporfiltration Whole Egg
5% EFA
20% Oat Muscle
5% Omega Muscle

50g = 339 cal, 11.6g fat, 14.2g carb, 43.9g protein

PF Breakfast
25% Egg White Protein
25% Yolk Powder
25% Victoria Milk Protein
20% Whey Protein Concentrate
5% Super Plasma Protein
50g = 230 cal, 8g fat, 3g carb, 35g protein

2. Anytime/Afternoon MRP/Pre workout:
This would be either an in between lunch and dinner or something to drink about 3-4pm before I workout at about 6. Lasting energy is important.

10% Victoria Milk
10% Super Plasma
40% IPI
10% Vaporfiltration Whole Egg
5% Yolk Powder
5% EFA
15% Oat Muscle
5% Omega Muscle
50g = 333cal, 10.5g fat, 11.5g carb, 0 sugar, 47.5g protein.
^ Too complex, maybe more fat/carbs to increase longer-term satiety?

VS
PF Lean Gainer MRP
50% CFM Whey Isolate
20% Soy Isolate
20% Hydrolyzed 1400
10% OmegaMuscle
Vitamins & Minerals
50g = 185cal, 3g fat, 3g carb, 40.5g protein***
***(adjusted down from 100g for comparison on 50g = 50g basis)




3. PWO - This is my main focus. In the past I have used both Surge and ON 2:1:1 . I liked them, but thinking I want to go a bit less than the 2:1 carb protein as well as experiment with splitting carb load between hi & low GI. I feel like too much hi GI carbs tend to make me mushy fairly quickly and I have a harder time staying lean than I do gaining weight (muscle or otherwise). Taste is not a huge issue, if I know I am ingesting a high quality product, I am sure my taste buds won't mind - but it has to be at least tolerable.

I was thinking about dropping about half of the Rilose and making that up with OatMuscle. Also, I would be adding the creatine/BCAAs separately.
How does this look:

Purple Muscle added to &

25% Hydrolyzed 1400
10% Hydrolyzed 520
15% PeptoPro
30% Rilose
20% Oat Muscle
50g = 281cal, 34.5g carb, 21g sugar, 33g pro.

VS
PF Post Training Formula
5% Creapure Creatine
25% Hydrolyzed 1400
5% Hydrolyzed 520
5% PeptoPro
60% Rilose
50g = 184 cal, .8g fat, 25.2g carb, 20.4g protein***
***(adjusted down from 125g for comparison on 50g = 50g basis)

Thanks for reading all the way to the end of this novel. Tis much appreciated. Am I making this whole thing too complex?

Wow, welcome!

yea after reading that it doesnt sound like he is too new to me

nice bit of formulations you go there

ill throw it out there and hopefully since your new, maybe you will do this and overs will follow- but under the supp sections, can you post your reviews of these? did they work for you, taste etc?

thanks

Vap

and welcome

Thanks for the replies.

Yeah, 100% new to PF and the products here - I've tried to read up on as much as I could, but with so many similar products, differentiation is difficult if not near impossible with no prior usage of any product. .

I could see my needs being relatively common and was hoping someone might have already invented this wheel, so to speak.

I guess I just roll the dice and order up.

I will try to add some reviews up once I get a real chance to evaluate, as they are generally very sparse or non-existent, but one would think that the onus would be on those who have been around here a while , are familiar with the products and have used them...(i.e. mods, vips, etc. </$0.02>

m.

i dont see anything wrong... oen thing id suggest tho is super bovine! 5 to 10g per shake...

just buy a pound and add it to what you already have.

Originally Posted by ninjaalbert

i dont see anything wrong... oen thing id suggest tho is super bovine! 5 to 10g per shake...

Cool, thanks for the input.

I will give that super bovine a try. From reading the product description, sounds like it is useful to take at any point in the day.

I don't get why exactly it says to use max of 10-20g a day.

I think it may be a factor of a point of diminishing returns. Personally i take in about 15 grams a day between my two mixes and I never seem to get a full-blown sickness. I can't say it has helped me get bigger or recover more quickly, but the immunity is full on!

im huge

"...Thats what she said ..."

LOL