Feedback on my custom formulations

Hey all, new here so if this is the wrong forum for this feel free to point me to the right place!

I am putting together a couple of formulas, one for PWO and one for MRP. I am male, 5'7", 125lbs, pretty skinny, always have been, and have a tough time gaining weight. I was on a great program a few years back and packed on about 30lbs (went from 120lbs to 150lbs) of great muscle, but had to stop for a few years and lost most of it. My goal is to pack on as much muscle weight as possible, i'm not concerned with staying super cut I want some bulk

So enough about me, here's my thoughts, and I would love any feedback, positive or negative. For the MRP, I couldn't decide which of the awesome protein products here at PF.com to use, so I went with a good variety of high quality proteins, pretty balanced out. It ended up being about 60% protein, 20% fat, 20% carbs. For the PWO, I went with what looked like the fastest absorbing pre-digested protein and the carb that would give me the highest insulin spike, to really jam that protein into my muscles. And while we're jamming stuff into my muscles, I thought I would throw in a bit of creatine - will that slow down the digestion and/or reduce the insulin spike at all?

Custom Formula - Meal Replacement:
10% CFM Whey Isolate,
10% Membrane Micellar Casein,
10% Ultra Amino 97,
10% IPI Protein Isolate,
10% Tri-Fx (Whey Fraction),
10% Heliogen Casein,
5% Yolk Powder,
10% MCT Powder (60%),
5% EFA Powder,
10% OmegaMuscle,
10% Instant OatMuscle,
Additive: None
Flavor: Not Entered
Sweetener: Stevia

Custom Formula - Post Workout:
30% PeptoPro,
65% Rilose,
5% Creapure Creatine,
Additive: None
Flavor: Orange
Sweetener: Stevia

Feedback appreciated. Thanks!

Great job formulating...(sorry for delay). I wouldnt change them. for PWO. dont forget electrolytes and anti-oxidants post. Or just take a look at the new Quadracyn formula I made up.

Thanks Alex - where do I find electrolytes and anti-oxidants in the custom formula lab?

To be honest, I'm having a hard time deciding between the Aussie, the Heliogen, and the MMC. Can you provide any guidance? I've got a thread up in the Proteins forum, but not having much luck other than "they're all awesome - try them and decide which one you like" which isn't bad advice, but I would like to understand the technical differences between the three, what makes them different, why you would choose one vs the other, etc...

For example, the MMC. Is that still coming out of Ireland? Grass-fed cattle, 40-mile radius, anti-biotic and growth-hormone free, and all that?

The Aussie, do you still consider that "the highest grade caseinate ever created"?

The Heliogen Casein - let's say I didn't give a shit about whether my casein was instantized or not, and if so what it was instantized with. Is there any other reason I would pick the HC over MMC or Aussie?

Thanks again Alex, I love shopping at PF!

Hey GST,

Check out my latest two posts in the Casein thread ... I hope these posts give you more information to make your selection.

In terms of "level of denaturization", PF's casein's (per my understanding) should be ranked as follows (from least to most):
1. MMC
2. Heliogen
3. Aussie

In terms of ease of mixing , the rankings are as follows (easiest to hardest):
1. Aussie
2. Heliogen
3. MMC

In terms of "% protein content", the rankings are as follows (highest % to lowest):
1. Aussie, 1a Heliogen
3. MMC

I question whether Heliogen shares the same protein content as the Aussie; I ranked them as 1. and 1a. as they share the exact same amino profile per 100 grams (per the website). I believe that the Heliogen is actual 2nd in this category, but i am not 100% sure of this.

As for your mixes, your post workout is very good ... you will be happy with the formula you concocted!!!

As for your MRP, I made a few suggestions within the parenthesis:

10% Super Plasma (replaced the IPI ... you are already using two caseins and two other wheys ... using the IPI is repetitive. Super Plasma IS PF's BEST protein in terms of subfraction content)
10% Ultra Amino 97
10% CFM Whey Isolate
10% Tri-Fx (Whey Fraction)
10% Membrane Micellar Casein
10% Aussie Caseinate (replaced the Heliogen ... Aussie mixes better and has (IMO) a higher protein content)
5% Yolk Powder
10% MCT Powder (60%)
5% EFA Powder
10% OmegaMuscle
10% Instant OatMuscle,
Additive: None
Flavor: Not Entered
Sweetener: Stevia

Job561

Thanks job561, appreciate the feedback!

The PWO was the simple one, the highest spike carb and the fastest predigested protein, and a little creatine in there for swole

I really like your suggestions for the MRP, I have been reading like crazy since posting that last week and I was actually leaning the same way.
Although I wasn't going to go with the Super Bovine because of cost...
But definitely replace the IPI, I thought it was WHEY isolate but it's Milk Protein Isolate, so yes redundant with the Whey and Casein I already have.
And definitely replace the Heliogen with Aussie, I had actually already decided to do that.
The only thing is i'm thinking of replacing the CFM Whey Isolate with either Bio-Fresh or Iso-Chill. Any suggestions? Looking for maximum anabolic effect, purity, undenatured, cold-processed, grass-fed, that sort of thing. Or should I just stick with the CFM?

Thanks again.

Go Bio-Fresh or Iso-Chill if cost is a real factor ... I have used Bio-Fresh a lot and feel it is a very good protein. The Iso-chill is slightly cheaper, however I have had no experience with it. I wouldn't discount it, however.

Yes the Super Plasma is expensive ... but IMO is more than worth it. It has a crazy-high amounts of bioactive subfractions ... I rarely if ever get sick since including it in all of my formula's and also don't seem to overtrain. I try to include at least 10% in all of my custom formula's ... I have gone as high as 30% but I think that may have been overkill!

If cost is a real factor, I think it would be best to save a little money and replace the CFM with Iso-chill, but then tighten the belt and go with 10% Super Plasma.

IMO, I would recommend that you buy an MRP with added Super Plasma, and then make up the cost by substituting hydro 520 (10.99 / lb) in your postworkout formula in place of the PeptoPro (29.95 / lb).

Try this:
1. Buy a one month supply of the Postworkout with the PeptoPro and the MRP without the Super Plasma.
2. Next month, buy your postworkout with the 520 (vice the PP) and then make your MRP with the Super Plasma.

See which protocol you like best and go with it!

If you come into some money, you could buy a 3rd month supply of a postworkout with the PP AND an MRP with the SP!!!