Shakes vs. Food

depends on the time of the day, during the day maybe chicken breasts, but after workout, id take the shake but if i had to choose only 1 then food, food keep me fuller faster even if shake is 100% casein...

In my early 20's, I probably would have said a protein shake ... now that I am early into my 40's, unless you are talking immediately pre and post workout, and right before bed, I'll take that chicken breast, thank you very much!

I don't live to lift ... working out is a part of my life that I enjoy very much. It is, however, a part ... and that's it. Ditto for my diet.

I love to eat and have protein supplements. Depends on the mode really. There's nothing better than grilling on a hot summer day next to my pool. but your right in that alot of my proteins lean toward the "supplement" side than whole food, like theTri FX, super plasma and the hydro's. Usually when the summer starts to roll around and its time for the beach I will "tighten" the diet and have more supplements. I like to try to at least have some of my abs showing during the summer. which I can usually pull off by may. During the winter I really dont care as much...but come summer time when I try not to wear a shirt all weekend ( I live near the ocean, jersey shore) I fine tune the diet.

All of these responses make sense, but I don't think I phrased my question right. What I'm wondering is, does real food offer growth factors and immune enhancement the way many of PF's supplements do? For example, assuming the amino acid scores are the same for the chicken breast and a scoop of, say, Super Plasma--which one offers more growth factors and immune support?

no way. the protein things like superplasma totally dwarf "whole food" in terms of "concentration levels".

A perfect example is the muscle red, green, orange or purple, essentially these are foods, but super concentrated.

The maqui also is off the hook!!!

Thanks for the fast response Alex! So it's safe to say that sometimes, depending on the protein supplement and one's goals/needs, some of your stuff IS actually better nutritionally than whole food. (Kind of what I figured.) That's what I was getting at. ) Thanks again!

(I'm psyched to try the Maqui powder stuff)

Hey, the conclusion reached is correct . . . in today's world that is . . . LET'S NOT FORGET THAT IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THAT WAY, but thanks to what we humans have done to our earth's resources, i.e., through toxic chemical damage whether by 2nd-hand pollution output &/or the shit that is pumped into our soil for farming (I use that term loosely . . . it's not really farming anymore, it's biotech . . .) &/or the junk that's manufactured in a lab & labeled "food." We were meant to get all the nutrition we need by eating & drinking whole foods, including fruits & veggies that grow in/on the land & sea; and livestock. That's why I love to go to Europe. . . & even some of the Caribbean Islands still . . . THEIR PRODUCE LOOKS SO MUCH DIFFERENT THAN OURS . . . SO MUCH MORE BRILLIANCE TO THE COLORS . . . THE MEATS & POULTRY IN THE "MARKETS" TASTE SO MUCH BETTER (I go to the Portuguese section of Newark to buy fresh killed chicken . . . my chicken soup is outta this world! . . . & I buy home raised rabbits fr a neighbor's old Italian father! . . .he used to supply me w venison(I like the high protein content per smaller serving vs. cow beef & that it's naturally grass/green fed), but I eased up on my cosumption because I found out that the Forest Rangers/Bureau of Land Management Control, OUR GOVT so to speak, puts growth hormones(nice way to say "steroids") in the feed they drop for them in the winter months TO KICK UP THEIR GROWTH SO THE NICE LITTLE HUNTERS CAN BRING HOME BIGGER, BETTER KILLS. . .MAKES 'EM LOOK MORE LIKE A "MAN" . . .& they put Michael Vick in jail, please!) Thanks to PF's "integrity," I can maintain more of how/what I prefer to put in my body!! THANKS SOOOOOO MUCH ALEX. . . esp for stevia!!